However, the really BIG finding is that my husband and I share way too many HLA genes! We actually share 6 genes but 3 of them are homozygous on DH's side, so that means our embryos are going to constantly look too much like me genetically (eg altered self) instead of an embryo (eg non-self). When the body sees what appears to be altered self (like cancer), the immune system launches an all out attack. This is actually the opposite problem with organ transplants where HLA genes need to be the similar...in pregnancy they need to be different! This may explain why my NK Cells are slightly elevated too: my immune system has been attacking our pregnancies over and over again. I am officially at 6 consecutive losses but I know there have been more that were lost so early that we couldn't get to a positive beta/HPT. Dr. Braverman says that 5 or more matches are significant, with certain matches being more important than others. One of the discoveries is that we have an "absolute DQ Alpha" match of 4.1 (05) which is the worst possible gene because it most resembles cancer to the immune system according to Dr. Alan Beere.
Here's our HLA gene panel:
Me:
DQ Alpha: 1.3, 4.1
DQ Beta: 03,06
HLA A: 02, 24
HLA B: 33, 51
HLA C: 01, 05
HLA DRB1: 11, 13
HLA DRB3: 01, 02
DRB4, DRB5
DQ Beta: 03,06
HLA A: 02, 24
HLA B: 33, 51
HLA C: 01, 05
HLA DRB1: 11, 13
HLA DRB3: 01, 02
DRB4, DRB5
DH:
DQ Alpha: 4.1, 4.1
DQ Beta: 03, 03
HLA A: 02, 32
HLA B: 15, 51
HLA C: 07, 14
HLA DRB1: 11, 12
HLA DRB3: 02, 02
DRB4, DRB5
DQ Beta: 03, 03
HLA A: 02, 32
HLA B: 15, 51
HLA C: 07, 14
HLA DRB1: 11, 12
HLA DRB3: 02, 02
DRB4, DRB5
I highlighted all our matches....6 total but more like 9 with 3 of them being homozygous (the same) on DH's side. The only gene without a match is HLA C. Who knew we were so much alike? It's so weird!!
Some RE's say there is no treatment for this kind of genetic match and that a woman must use a surrogate to ever have a baby with her husband because the interaction is between her body and her husband (not her eggs). Others treat this with heavy doses of IVIG (super expensive) and steroids/prednisone and/or LIT (injecting the husband/partner's leukocytes into the woman's body...only done in Mexico at this time since it was outlawed in the US). However, Dr. Braverman is treating this problem with success using Neupogen. Neupogen seems to be a miracle drug for this issue and while it's expensive, it's nowhere near as expensive as routine IVIG or flying to Mexico over and over again for LIT.
Neupogen deserves a post of it's own, so for now I will list my treatment plan, which I started this cycle under Dr. Braverman's monitoring:
-Intralipid Infusion for elevated NK Cells (before ovulation, after a BFP)
-Lovenox for clotting risks at ovulation
-Neupogen at ovulation for the HLA matches
Here's a funny site describing why HLA genes need to be different in partners...apparently they match people up by analyzing their DNA!
http://www.genepartner.com/index.php/science
http://www.genepartner.com/index.php/science
Wish me luck! Prayers accepted! We're trusting God and utilizing science. :)
Sounds like you guys have an awesome plan! I wish you all the luck in the world!
ReplyDeleteWe're about to start testing with Dr. Sher, I've never had a BFP so we're thinking whatever the issue is it's causing implantation failure... Good luck! :)
Oh, I'm so glad you'll be seeing Dr. Sher, and he will test for immune issues too! Best of luck to you!!
ReplyDeleteI am so glad you are sharing your journey with us! It is inspiring and great to have someone who is committed to sharing good information about fertility. Thank you so much and keep on posting!!
ReplyDeleteThank you AnglicanCelt! :-)
ReplyDeleteI feel so lucky to have stumbled upon your blog. I am about to start the exact same protocol, also from Dr. Braverman. Did you find out why your attempts with the three medications were unsuccessful? Anything you could share would be so very appreciated! Thank you for sharing your journey!!
ReplyDeleteHi KJ! We never found out why we were not successful, however we only tried for 3 or 4 cycles on the meds before giving up...mainly because we felt like our problems were also related to my husband's poor sperm quality (very bad morphology) and my aging eggs. We felt like we had way too many things going against us beyond immune issues. However, my husband went off the meds we think were damaging his sperm and we are now spontaneously and very unexpectedly pregnant. I'm on BA & Lovenox that I believe are helping us sustain the pregnancy and would never have known about our thrombophilias if Dr. B had not tested for them. I'm 22 weeks today and everything has been going perfectly so far. :)
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